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	<title>Comments on: UTAH 11</title>
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		<title>By: Kaylie Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaylie Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Utah -- I got that totally. I thought you showed very well how perpetrators/abusers see themselves as victims of their victims. Fascinating. I didn&#039;t think you were too easy on him at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Utah &#8212; I got that totally. I thought you showed very well how perpetrators/abusers see themselves as victims of their victims. Fascinating. I didn&#8217;t think you were too easy on him at all.</p>
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		<title>By: littlestar</title>
		<link>http://www.fourthnight.com/2009/11/utah-11/comment-page-1/#comment-4170</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a pity we can&#039;t bring Olaf back...

(and Tess, and Fyor, and Igor, and Fido and Omar - so many talented writers!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a pity we can&#8217;t bring Olaf back&#8230;</p>
<p>(and Tess, and Fyor, and Igor, and Fido and Omar &#8211; so many talented writers!)</p>
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		<title>By: littlestar</title>
		<link>http://www.fourthnight.com/2009/11/utah-11/comment-page-1/#comment-4169</link>
		<dc:creator>littlestar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t think so! I&#039;m wondering now if you&#039;re even American, Utah. Guess I&#039;ll find out very soon (c:

Congratulations on making it to the top two!

I didn&#039;t count on seeing any of (what I thought of as) Delia and Corey&#039;s story through Jacob&#039;s eyes. It threw me for a bit - I thought of him as an intruder, getting in the way of the story.

But on re-reading, I realised that, yes, his story does have a place in your novella. It makes him more convincing once you&#039;ve seen a little of what&#039;s in his head. And that he actually did love Corey, in his own sick, twisted way... (Anna, I&#039;m also reminded of Lolita and Humbert Humbert)

I have everything crossed that we&#039;ll all get to find out how Corey and Delia are doing and how Corey reacts to Jacob&#039;s secret e-mail next week...

Good luck, Utah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t think so! I&#8217;m wondering now if you&#8217;re even American, Utah. Guess I&#8217;ll find out very soon (c:</p>
<p>Congratulations on making it to the top two!</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t count on seeing any of (what I thought of as) Delia and Corey&#8217;s story through Jacob&#8217;s eyes. It threw me for a bit &#8211; I thought of him as an intruder, getting in the way of the story.</p>
<p>But on re-reading, I realised that, yes, his story does have a place in your novella. It makes him more convincing once you&#8217;ve seen a little of what&#8217;s in his head. And that he actually did love Corey, in his own sick, twisted way&#8230; (Anna, I&#8217;m also reminded of Lolita and Humbert Humbert)</p>
<p>I have everything crossed that we&#8217;ll all get to find out how Corey and Delia are doing and how Corey reacts to Jacob&#8217;s secret e-mail next week&#8230;</p>
<p>Good luck, Utah!</p>
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		<title>By: JDEvolutionist</title>
		<link>http://www.fourthnight.com/2009/11/utah-11/comment-page-1/#comment-4162</link>
		<dc:creator>JDEvolutionist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got to &#039;Turn on&#039; first!! Embarrassingly I had to look it up, I was in my teen in the early &#039;60s. Perhaps Bruce Lipton is more appropriate to my comment in today&#039;s world - not that I&#039;m really sure where he&#039;s going! I&#039;m not religious, quite the opposite, but lots of Lipton&#039;s ideas make a lot of sense as regards to understanding the significance of environment - the Condition of Existence.

As a result of your comment I watched a BBC documentary on Tim Leary - very interesting, he was quite a man. Sounds like you might have thought so too!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got to &#8216;Turn on&#8217; first!! Embarrassingly I had to look it up, I was in my teen in the early &#8217;60s. Perhaps Bruce Lipton is more appropriate to my comment in today&#8217;s world &#8211; not that I&#8217;m really sure where he&#8217;s going! I&#8217;m not religious, quite the opposite, but lots of Lipton&#8217;s ideas make a lot of sense as regards to understanding the significance of environment &#8211; the Condition of Existence.</p>
<p>As a result of your comment I watched a BBC documentary on Tim Leary &#8211; very interesting, he was quite a man. Sounds like you might have thought so too!!</p>
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		<title>By: Utah</title>
		<link>http://www.fourthnight.com/2009/11/utah-11/comment-page-1/#comment-4154</link>
		<dc:creator>Utah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...a better bad guy.&quot; I like that line, Chris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;a better bad guy.&#8221; I like that line, Chris.</p>
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		<title>By: Utah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Utah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaylie, thank you. Your comments are always a pleasure to read. I do remember you writing that. You suggested I focus more on the mental enslavement of Corey. I&#039;m not sure I followed through on that as much as I should have. But I thought this round to reserve the tables. In some ways it&#039;s Jacob&#039;s mental enslavement at question. Not that I wanted there to be any element of exoneration. I included the line about his lust over her &quot;skinny childish limbs&quot; so that any empathy for Jacob could be viewed in light of the terrible reality of what has happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaylie, thank you. Your comments are always a pleasure to read. I do remember you writing that. You suggested I focus more on the mental enslavement of Corey. I&#8217;m not sure I followed through on that as much as I should have. But I thought this round to reserve the tables. In some ways it&#8217;s Jacob&#8217;s mental enslavement at question. Not that I wanted there to be any element of exoneration. I included the line about his lust over her &#8220;skinny childish limbs&#8221; so that any empathy for Jacob could be viewed in light of the terrible reality of what has happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Chartrand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Chartrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job Utah. I like how you brought the story back around to focus on Jacob.  Injecting a little empathy makes for a better bad guy.  This is going to be a tough choice this week.  Best of luck to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job Utah. I like how you brought the story back around to focus on Jacob.  Injecting a little empathy makes for a better bad guy.  This is going to be a tough choice this week.  Best of luck to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaylie Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.fourthnight.com/2009/11/utah-11/comment-page-1/#comment-4146</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaylie Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Utah -- I really loved this entry. I think seeing the world through Jacob&#039;s eyes was a very good move. That&#039;s not to say I don&#039;t want to see the sonofabitch caught and suffering a LOT. I think I mentioned before that one of my students is writing a memoir about this and what I find most horrifying is the way the abused child is manipulated by the adult because the adult is the authority figure. I really liked how you stuck up for Coco, too. That shows real aplomb and honor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Utah &#8212; I really loved this entry. I think seeing the world through Jacob&#8217;s eyes was a very good move. That&#8217;s not to say I don&#8217;t want to see the sonofabitch caught and suffering a LOT. I think I mentioned before that one of my students is writing a memoir about this and what I find most horrifying is the way the abused child is manipulated by the adult because the adult is the authority figure. I really liked how you stuck up for Coco, too. That shows real aplomb and honor.</p>
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		<title>By: Constantine Markides</title>
		<link>http://www.fourthnight.com/2009/11/utah-11/comment-page-1/#comment-4136</link>
		<dc:creator>Constantine Markides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I can move it, Utah, because it&#039;s a threaded comment. You could always repost and I could delete this one, but I wouldn&#039;t bother. Any readers who&#039;d have trouble figuring it out probably dropped out long ago. Just consider it a reflection of your narrative shifts in time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I can move it, Utah, because it&#8217;s a threaded comment. You could always repost and I could delete this one, but I wouldn&#8217;t bother. Any readers who&#8217;d have trouble figuring it out probably dropped out long ago. Just consider it a reflection of your narrative shifts in time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Utah</title>
		<link>http://www.fourthnight.com/2009/11/utah-11/comment-page-1/#comment-4133</link>
		<dc:creator>Utah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no, I hit &quot;Reply&quot; on the wrong comment. Host, is there any way this can be moved so it&#039;s underneath JD&#039;s second comment, not his first one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no, I hit &#8220;Reply&#8221; on the wrong comment. Host, is there any way this can be moved so it&#8217;s underneath JD&#8217;s second comment, not his first one?</p>
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